Monthly Archives: October 2010

Blog Banter 22: Corp (dis)loyalty

Welcome to the twenty-second installment of the EVE Blog Banter, the monthly EVE Online blogging extravaganza created by CrazyKinux. The EVE Blog Banter involves an enthusiastic group of gaming bloggers, a common topic within the realm of EVE Online, and a week or so to post articles pertaining to the said topic. The resulting articles can either be short or quite extensive, either funny or dead serious, but are always a great fun to read! Any questions about the EVE Blog Banter should be directed to Check for other EVE Blog Banter articles at the bottom of this post!

This month topic is brought to us by L’Dene Bean of Nitpickin’s who asks: Why, and how did you pick your corporation? Is your loyalty solid or just until a better placed organization “recruits” you. The shorter version:  Who holds your Unshakable Fealty and why?

The title of this banter post has the whole “dis” option on the loyalty for a specific reason.  Firstly – loyalty in general, especially in EVE, comes basically at an exchange of one thing for another (being: the membership).

Safety, production, friendship (both IRL and in game), and sometimes even nefarious reasons.

I started EVE within a small corporation; that eventually disbanded.  This was not with Gilbert, but another character.  I moved that character into my own corporation with the intent of picking up some business salvaging and doing small-scale pirate like things.  Pretty small.

When I rerolled and came up with Gilbert Hamilton, I joined Suddenly Ninjas almost right away.  I’ve loved it ever since.  My loyalty is not just to SN, but to the alliance; I’ve found having that foundation has made EVE very much something I look forward to playing.  There are no real politics, and people are just “there”.  No taxes, no worry about being on to guard a POS, etc.  If you want to do something, you do it.  If not, so what.  That means a lot to me, with family and all that in the real world.

With my first character, I realized I could incorporate him into the SN mindset, but without joining SN directly.  I created a 3rd character to act as CEO of my corporation. (I like the name and wanted to keep it.)

My first character then went back to the contacts that were in his first corporation and joined one of the children corps.  You know what happened with that, and can see a post about it here.  He has since left that corporation under the excuse of internal strife from the theft.

This is the other half of loyalty.  It’s generally considered “social engineering” and it’s something that I can, when my mind is put to it, be good at.  The corporation I joined after the one I fleeced, was another spawn of the first corporation.  They do not talk to each other and I was given instant acceptance without an API check.

My loyalty with all of my characters is with SN/TEARS – and anything I fleece from this corporation will be available to SN/TEARS members at a low low price of zero to nothing, where needed.

Here are some other posts about this blog-banter in the EVE community:

Stolen Post #1

Stolen from: Random Stuffs

Recently, in the super secret Suddenly Ninjas forums, a question arose to create an OPML file of all ninja blogs in the great list kept by the Chief Ninja, Aiden Mourn, since he was not so adept at using this kind of new-fangled technology thing. So I responded, with this: The Ninja Blog Pack. The boss has also made a post about it, here.

A quick guide to use it:

  • Open up the link to the Ninja Blog Pack bundle
  • Click the Subscribe button


Bring More Ammo

Lesson learned: When you don’t know what resists you’re up against – bring a LOT of ammo.

I went to Agrallarier last night and scanned down three mission runners.  The first one, however, was all it took to make my night interesting.  He was in a hyperion, and shot at me pretty soon after I stole from him.

I returned in a rifter, and started shooting him.  His shield wasn’t going; or really was going down very slow.  I kept switching ammo types in both the projectiles and in the rocket launcher.

I was able to gather a 1 Million ISK bounty out of him.  I asked for 10, he gave me 1.  I kept shooting.

Eventually, another non-allied (though possibly friendly) person showed up.  He shot up the ship enough to get the mission runner to eject and then stole the hyperion.  If I could have flown it, I would have done the same, leaving my rifter there in space.


Grumbles and Fun

It’s been a busy busy real-life week or two.  In terms of EVE, however, my super sekret corp infiltration alt has successfully stolen a bunch of stuff from his first corporation.  The amount is only about 130 Mil, but the tears it’s gathered in the corporation have been plenty.

  • People leaving because they are upset.
  • People accusing others with harm because they are “thieves”
  • Corporation leaving its current alliance.

I decided to make the YOINK as soon as a nonrelated wardec had gone live, causing plenty of confusion.  They were stating in corp chat that “we were safe, we have a WH POS that nobody knows about.”  Well, that’s where I got the bulk of the stolen goods from.   What I couldn’t steal, I jettisoned into space.

I then took all the known scanning ships and self destructed them in front of the hangar array.  Why they never right-clicked the ship and saw that I owned all those wrecks is beyond me.

Then, I sent a “Thank you from Suddenly Ninjas” email from this character to a bunch of members of that corp.  Right after, I took the alt and applied to join another corp I was told I had an “instant access” pass for.

Logging in to eve-gate this morning shows no replies on Gilbert to the email, but the alt has been moved to the new corp.  I’ll fleece this one, and maybe reapply at the just raped one, and see if they’ll let me in again without an API key.  (That’s my goal – to see how many let me in without the API checks…)

Good times.


Another post about direction.

Gilbert has become a good scanner.  I enjoy it a lot.  Not changing that regard – the ninja-salvage-annoyance part of life.  But I want some direction in my skill planning path.

I’ve got the Manticore that I want to skill up for with missiles.  And believe me, that’s a long set of skills.  I’m at that point, though, where I can fly it but would lose it fast.

ECM is something I’m looking into.  Tackle, too.

But, right now, I’m focusing on flying all races up to Cruisers.  That’ll keep me occupied for a while.


Snagged from a corporation…

I logged an alt in for giggles, a while back.  Had an invite from a corp that spun off of one he was previously in.  I joined, trained up a bit, and went right for the wormhole.  On entering the POS hangar array, I liked what I saw.

I’m not big into juggling two skill queues, but I figured I’d give this a shot.  After a while, the alt was able to fly most of the ships in the hangar.  So I would spend some time in the wormhole.

I found it boring.  Scan the exit, do stuff, maybe scan some other wh-sites and stuff to do down, etc.  I found it very boring, actually.  So I wouldn’t have a problem snagging a bunch of junk from the corp.   The alliance leaders also kept bitching that I wouldn’t join the teamspeak server, etc.

When the corp spoke of joining another alliance and/or moving around and with a lot of new members coming on-board… I felt tonight was the right night to go.

So I spent some time boarding each ship, burning to the exit and plopping it down at a station at the system the exit sent me to.  Back in my pod, and then back with another ship.  Did that a few times, and made out with some nice loot.

One thing I noticed was that while they flew a few T3 ships (of which I’d have no time/patience to skill for), but they seemed to log with those t3 ships and leave the scanning ships in the array.

So when I was done, I self destructed all of the scanning ships and then of the other ships – the ones I couldn’t fly, I just launched for giggles.  Wrecks and floating ships.  Good times.

Here is a breakdown of what I snagged. Rough estimated value: 150Mil.  Not much, but still, it was go now, or lose it later after a move, etc.

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsted Plates I200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun250mm Railgun IIAcolyte IIArmor Explosive Hardener IIArmor Kinetic Hardener IIArmor Thermic Hardener IIAuto Targeting System IIBeta Reactor Control: Reaction Control IBrutixCap Recharger IICap Recharger IICombat Scanner Probe ICore Scanner Probe IDamage Control IIDamage Control IIDominixDread Guristas Stasis WebifierDrone Link Augmentor IEnergized Adaptive Nano Membrane IIEnergized Reactive Membrane IIEP-S Gaussian IExequrorExpanded Cargohold IExpanded Cargohold IIFleeting Propulsion Inhibitor IGas Cloud Harvester IHammerhead IHammerhead IIHeavy Nosferatu IHemorphite Mining Crystal IHornet IIImproved Cloaking Device IIInvulnerability Field IIIteron Mark IIIKernite Mining Crystal ILarge ‘Arup’ I Remote  Bulwark ReconLarge Shield Extender IIMagnetic Field Stabilizer IIMedium Armor Repairer IIMedium Capacitor Battery IIMiner IMiner IMiner IIMining Drone IMining Drone IMobile Small Warp Disruptor IModal Electron Particle Accelerator IMyrmidonOgre IIPlagioclase Mining Crystal IIProcurerPrototype Cloaking Device ISalvager IShield Power Relay IISisters Combat Scanner ProbeSisters Core Scanner ProbeSmall Tractor Beam IStrip Miner ISurvey Scanner IValkyrie IIVeldspar Mining Crystal IIVespa EC-600Vespa IIVexorWarp Disruptor IIWarp Scrambler IIWarrior IIY-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I MWD

Alliance Life

Manasi has a great post written up about Alliance Life. Go there and read it, comment, and join an alliance!