Monthly Archives: August 2010

I just discovered “i drawed sum spaceships“.  Awesome site! Awesome art!

Ahh yes, another win…

I love it when the Ninjas win.  Aggressive Tendencies has a really nice writeup on it, and all I really have to say is, “Great job!”  Here is the original blog post.


Turned in 25 Million of salvage and goodies today, in Dodixie.  Was nice to see the wallet get a little fatter.  I’m trying to see how far I can reasonably increase my wealth in two weeks to a month’s time.  I’m stealing loot, but if I get shot, I won’t chase much if the MR runs away.  Sure, I’ll return with a bigger boat, but I won’t press the issue.

So, command centers…

Only one on a planet.  I can understand that, from a “role-play/fiction” standpoint I suppose.  But not being able to upgrade one is retarded.  I trashed the layout I had, upgraded the command center, and reinstalled everything.

Extractors->Storage->Processing->Storage and once the first processing is done: Storage->Command Center for launch.


I have to look into the potential for stealing from the jettisoned command center cans …

Playing Garbageman

This evening, I spent most of my time shuffling things around.  I need to focus on ISK for a little while, and thusly I know that I can gather most of my money around the Dodixie/Agral areas, and the Rens/Lustrevik areas.  So tonight, I repackaged a whole boatload of ships that didn’t have rigs and started podding myself over to them and moving them around.  One of these days, I will have a larger cargo ship to make one or less trips, but right now it’s just fine.

I’ve left ships in what I call “homes” around Dodixie and Lustrevik.  There is some stuff in Ammold, too.

Actually, last night I toyed with some planetary interaction.  Having seen other bloggers doing that thing, I figured I would try and see what happens.  Right now, I have two extractors sending R0 materials to a processor making Oxygen.  Do I plan on making money with this?  Probably not, but what’s to say I can’t let a cargo hold fill up on a planet and once in a while pick the stuff up and sell it?

On the layout change.

I must say, I’m happy with’s ability to take a screenshot from in-game, allow me to crop it and display as my banner.  (The image is of my slasher, full of fire and probably leaking precious O2 as I begin warp away from a few rats a mission runner left for me.)

Griefing… a Blog Banter

Welcome to the twentieth installment of the EVE Blog Banter, the monthly EVE Online blogging extravaganza created by CrazyKinux. The EVE Blog Banter involves an enthusiastic group of gaming bloggers, a common topic within the realm of EVE Online, and a week to post articles pertaining to the said topic. The resulting articles can either be short or quite extensive, either funny or dead serious, but are always a great fun to read! Any questions about the EVE Blog Banter should be directed to Check out other EVE Blog Banter articles at the bottom of this post!

With the recent completion of the 3rd installment of the Hulkageddon last month, @CyberinEVE, author of Hands Off, My Loots!, asks: “Griefing is a very big part of EVE. Ninja Salvaging, Suicide Ganking, Trolling, and Scamming are all a very large part of the game. What do you think about all these things? You can talk about one, or all…but just let us know your overall opinion on Griefing, and any recommendations you may have to change it if you think it’s needed.”

Well to be honest – I am a bit biased.  I make 90% of my ISK and enjoyment (and therefore utility) out of what I can gather from others.  I shall start, however, with something I don’t consider part of my usual toolbox: griefing.

Griefing, in my opinion, is causing concern, harm, or frustration to another player without their ability to stop that from happening.  eg: in Everquest 1 days, griefing may have been sitting a large character in a small doorway, trapping the player in a little hut outside of Rivervale.  Then leaving your PC on and logged in for hours.  I won’t do those types of things, unless they are in response to actions from the mark or player attacking me.

That said, on to the next item in the list: Ninja Salvaging.  I use that tactic for my income and it helps support my habit of losing ships in what I call “learning PVP” battles.  (Read: I suck at PVP.)  I also use ninja salvaging as part of a bag of tricks to get a mission runner to attack me, in hopes I can “learn more” by returning with a bigger ship.  This is not griefing, because no where does the mission runner have to attack me, nor am I stopping them from completing an objective using a game tactic that is against the “rules.”

I’ve used Suicide Ganking as a method of pissing off someone before, or just to see if I could do it.  To me, it’s a valid tactic, but a bit on the “aww, come on, really?” scale – if used for just boredom or pissing people off.  In battle (especially in battle not involving a wardec), it is acceptable.

I use the term battle here to include suicide ganking as a reasonable response to a jerk acting up in local, etc.

One of the things I love about EVE and one of the reasons I keep playing is that the conversations in local and in corp chat are very much “older” – there are kids playing, but not usually.  This isn’t WoW and attention spans are shorter with those guys.  In Dodixie, you can get into some nice socially engineered conversations and end up scamming someone, or watching the other scammers double your isk, sell contracts, and fleet-warp people.  Those things are there, and I acknowledge them, however I only pull those tools out when I am really bored.  Rarely.

Can flipping and miner bumping are two favorites of mine.  I use miner bumping as a chance to practice keeping transversal high, and when when that gets boring, I go straight into the miner, pushing him away from his ore.  Rarely do they bitch, and never do they shoot.    Most of the miners these days are afk anyway.

Other Banters

Aggro Extension Example

Tonight, I was hunting down mission runners in Lustrevik.  I had given a family member 10Million ISK and needed to make that back.  I soon found a Thrasher kiting a lot of rats.

I started stealing, and he shot at my Slasher.  I warped away, just barely making it out in time.   (The price of the slasher aside, the utility of it is well worth getting my ass out of there instead of dodging.  At least, lately.)

I returned in the Brutix, ready to just smash his face in but he warped away when he saw my ugly mug arrive.  I killed a couple of his rats, and before I warped off I extended aggro by shooting a wreck.  It went from 8 minutes left to 15.

Then, I warped off to my station, changed ships for my Rifter, checked to see if he was docked (no) and then undocked.  I popped around from station to station, just toying and playing with d-scan. (Something I need to do.)  The session changes confirmed that I still had the aggression.

When the timer got down to 7 or 8 minutes again, I warped back and shot another wreck while dodging rats.

At some point I made a bookmark just under 1AU away so I could watch the scene.  Also, at some point I received payment for my rat killing. Real honest ISK!

It was after the third or fourth extension that I told him via chat and mail that I was “done” with his mission and he could return.  He returned and I watched him arrive.  I warped to the scene, to find him 100km away.  Crap.  Shit.  I’m in a Rifter fit with an AB though.  I burned and overheated toward him.  Almost straight toward him and then I remembered I wanted to practice keeping my transversal high.  So I started that technique, and then soon had him scrammed and webbed.

My autocannons were hitting him pretty fast, though the range on those is close.  A ship scan from first aggro from him (when he shot my slasher), showed he had medium range and short range runs on the boat.    My camera was still watching him, expecting him to align to something “favorite” of his.  So when I did the trick to keep transversal up again, I actually was clicking off to an unknown area of space and soon he was 10km from me again.


So I corrected that, started orbiting at 750m again and soon he went boom.   That said, I only did 30% of the damage.  The rats did the other.  I think I need to fit T2 weapons on the Rifter if I really want to hit with it, and on top of that pay attention to where I click.

I did notice, when I returned to watch for his return – that his capsule was within dscan. (set at 50,000,000 km)  So this means he must have ragelogged, and then his capsule warped off randomly.


This week… full of grease and fire.

Well, not really.  If I’m lucky, sure I suppose.  However, this week, back in real-life, I’ve got the yearly fireman’s carnival to work at.  Which means my evenings are going to be spent taking care of the fried dough booth, etc.    Getting home at 11pm every night will stink.

Onto the skill queue goes something large!  On a side note, however, this means that Sunday after carnival cleanup, I will probably come home and relax with the EVOGANDA death race! ;)


A hard lesson I suppose, to learn, but still a very terrible thing to have happen to your game.  Ugh.   Talk about a different kind of “corp infiltration”, huh?

I mean, I’m all for stealing from wrecks, corp infiltration, and the like – pirate stuff.  But not the whole “gain RL trust and then screw them” crap.  It’s wrong, on a few different levels.

I wish him luck, and hope he finds another version of internet spaceships out there to fly with, or starts another “private” toon or something.  Or, you know, goes outside like all of us should, and takes a nice breath of fresh air.