Griefing… a Blog Banter

Welcome to the twentieth installment of the EVE Blog Banter, the monthly EVE Online blogging extravaganza created by CrazyKinux. The EVE Blog Banter involves an enthusiastic group of gaming bloggers, a common topic within the realm of EVE Online, and a week to post articles pertaining to the said topic. The resulting articles can either be short or quite extensive, either funny or dead serious, but are always a great fun to read! Any questions about the EVE Blog Banter should be directed to Check out other EVE Blog Banter articles at the bottom of this post!

With the recent completion of the 3rd installment of the Hulkageddon last month, @CyberinEVE, author of Hands Off, My Loots!, asks: “Griefing is a very big part of EVE. Ninja Salvaging, Suicide Ganking, Trolling, and Scamming are all a very large part of the game. What do you think about all these things? You can talk about one, or all…but just let us know your overall opinion on Griefing, and any recommendations you may have to change it if you think it’s needed.”

Well to be honest – I am a bit biased.  I make 90% of my ISK and enjoyment (and therefore utility) out of what I can gather from others.  I shall start, however, with something I don’t consider part of my usual toolbox: griefing.

Griefing, in my opinion, is causing concern, harm, or frustration to another player without their ability to stop that from happening.  eg: in Everquest 1 days, griefing may have been sitting a large character in a small doorway, trapping the player in a little hut outside of Rivervale.  Then leaving your PC on and logged in for hours.  I won’t do those types of things, unless they are in response to actions from the mark or player attacking me.

That said, on to the next item in the list: Ninja Salvaging.  I use that tactic for my income and it helps support my habit of losing ships in what I call “learning PVP” battles.  (Read: I suck at PVP.)  I also use ninja salvaging as part of a bag of tricks to get a mission runner to attack me, in hopes I can “learn more” by returning with a bigger ship.  This is not griefing, because no where does the mission runner have to attack me, nor am I stopping them from completing an objective using a game tactic that is against the “rules.”

I’ve used Suicide Ganking as a method of pissing off someone before, or just to see if I could do it.  To me, it’s a valid tactic, but a bit on the “aww, come on, really?” scale – if used for just boredom or pissing people off.  In battle (especially in battle not involving a wardec), it is acceptable.

I use the term battle here to include suicide ganking as a reasonable response to a jerk acting up in local, etc.

One of the things I love about EVE and one of the reasons I keep playing is that the conversations in local and in corp chat are very much “older” – there are kids playing, but not usually.  This isn’t WoW and attention spans are shorter with those guys.  In Dodixie, you can get into some nice socially engineered conversations and end up scamming someone, or watching the other scammers double your isk, sell contracts, and fleet-warp people.  Those things are there, and I acknowledge them, however I only pull those tools out when I am really bored.  Rarely.

Can flipping and miner bumping are two favorites of mine.  I use miner bumping as a chance to practice keeping transversal high, and when when that gets boring, I go straight into the miner, pushing him away from his ore.  Rarely do they bitch, and never do they shoot.    Most of the miners these days are afk anyway.

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2 responses to “Griefing… a Blog Banter

  1. Added yours! Thanks for letting me know. New banter email to be sent out soon! -CK

  2. Pingback: Blog Banter 20: Suddenly Ninjas, Hundreds of Them! | TheElitist

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